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samdogg
post Dec 19 2005, 02:40 AM
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Phone: MPx200
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Hey folks,

I'm more of an observer than a poster, but I felt it was my duty to show (not brag, lol) another successful installation and review of WM 5 tongue.gif

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Of course I did not find this upgrade myself. I accepted darkoverlord's offer, except you dont have to send your phone in now, he will supply you with the goodies. Now I will try give an honest review of this highly sought out operating system.


First off to all those stupid people who thought it couldn't be done. It has, and it already was done. We first saw it a couple of months ago in a post by muchomorek, and then again in another post, darkoverlord installed the damn thing himself. Now, how he got a hold of it, I have no clue. The Mpx200 was the test unit for WM 5 by Microsoft from what I have seen and heard from alot of different websites. I guess, this is so, because if you can run the OS on this phone and keep it stable and fast, then it probably wll run better on all other SmartPhones released after it.

Install (For any one who cares):

I dont know if this is the way they install it at Microsoft or if this was darkoverlord's own custom way, but I didnt not use the Motorola Upgrade wizard at all. Basically I was given 3 bin files and a custom flash program (maybe made by darkoverlord) that you run using command prompt on your computer.

First off, the hardware fingerprint darkoverlord was talking about, its tied to the computer your installing from. The first time I ran the flash program, it gave me a hardware code, generated by my computer. I gave this code to Mr. Dark, and he generated a hardware key for my computer, which I never had to enter again. So basically I could install WM 2005 on any MPX200 phone from my computer, as many times as I wanted.

The only thing is, I am guessing if the hardware fingerprint is tied to your OS, then if you reinstall windows on your computer, you have to get another hardware key from Mr. Dark. Now, if the hardware fingerprint is ACTUALLY tied to your computer's hardware, then you shouldnt have this problem, and once you enter the key, you never have to enter it again. BTW, just a note, you have to have at least a 32MB SD, as some of you suspected. I had a 1 GB SD card.

Phew...now, once I put in the key, it allowed me to access the custom flash program and from there:

- I flashed the phone with the first bin file, WITHOUT the SD card or the SIM.
- Then I had to perform a Master reset.
- Then, flashed the phone with the second bin file, WITH the SD card back in
- Then, flashed the phone with the third bin file
- Then, had to do a soft reset, I think, clicked a couple fo options, and then it formatted the storage card. From there, I booted up and it was all good.


Appearance:

Honestly, the OS is NOT completly different looking, as you guys have probably seen. A little bit of a smaller fonts used here and there. And of course a little bit different graphics used for icons and borders and on screen buttons and what not. The START button has a windows logo by it, and the start menu is now all icons, instead of a list. If you really wanna know, look at the screenshots for yourself. Overall it still looks better then WM 2003.

Functionality:

Well there are good things and bad things, of course. Now, remember, that I received version 5.1.1700.1434. I dont know if this is a final version so things may be different from what other already available WM 5 SmartPhones have or dont have. With that being said:

Good:

- Better Bluetooth support (dont matter)
- Better Camera support (dont matter again)
- New Photo and Video Viewer
- Attatch custom pics and ring tones with contacts, so that when a contact calls, both come up
- New Internet Explorer, with options to save images, music, and sounds.
- Windows Media Player 10 (Essentially the same as previous versions but different looks)
- New MSN bar that can be displayed on the home screen, which gives you icons for hotmail, messenger, and MSN
- MP3 support for ringtones
- Overall faster OS

Forgive me if if I forgot anything, this my first time writing a review of an OS.

Bad:

Now, remember, that I received version 5.1.1700.1434. I dont know if this is a final version so things may be different from what other already available WM 5 SmartPhones have or dont have. With that being said:

- No File Explorer
- No easily accessible battery viewer or memory meter. There is no icons for either. Both of these are hidden in the Settings icon, under "Power Management" and "About"
- No Task manager

Again if I am missing anything please forgive and forget. If anybody has anything
else to add, please do so. As far as the lack of file explorer, Task Manager and batter/memory meter icons, yah it sucks, but I got around this by getting Resco Explorer 2003 5.15 and Resco System Toys 1.20. And if your broke, like me, just download the trial versions from the official site, and google for some serials or cracks. These 2 programs help ALOT, and I recommend them for anyone planning to do this upgrade.

As far as the OS being faster, You MUST use at least a 32 MB SD card. 256 and 1GB card work the best, but DO NOT use a 512 SD card. This OS has a serious issue with that size SD card for some reason. Follow these lines, and WM 5 will perform faster and nicer than WM 2003

Signal/Voice Quality:

When I first got my MPX200, of course it was a US AT&T phone with a AT&T SIM card. At that time I had Cingular, and I had WM 2003. With those 2, I had OK signal and voice quality, with dropped calls every now and then. I never had chance to unlock the phone and test it with T-Mobile. However, before I got the WM 5 upgrade, I switched to T-Mobile (Cingular BTW is *&^%, and is wasting what AT&T had setup before, in my opinion). So Mr.Dark unlocked the phone for me as well, with a program he gave me. Booted up my phone with my T-Mobile SIM, and WM 5, and I noticed a better signal and better voice quality. Now, I am no expert, but the better signal and voice, could be a result of switching to T-mobile, or just because of the area I live at, so I dont know for sure, so dont kill me if anyone else gets different results.

Battery Life:

Havent had the upgrade that long to test battery life, but so far, from what I can tell, it seems to be consuming a little less power. Either way, I dont think it will consume more battery life than 2003. I'll keep you updated.

Last Impression:

Overall I would recommend the OS upgrade if you want more functionality and speed as far as what I described. If you dont wanna bother with flashing the rom or with buying or downloading a couple of apps to fix this OS, then just pass on it. Otherwise, get this nice upgrade, and soon. Hope this review has helped people. You guys know where to get this thing. So good luck. smile.gif

Samdogg


UPDATE 1: Well, as some of you may be aware, there is a new way of installing WM 2005. Basically you have to get the bin files, if you can get a hold of them, and convert them to .img files. next step is to use Motorola Upgrade Wizard and follow basically the same install process, but with using that program. Yep, no hardware fingerprint, no nothing! If your looking to do this upgrade, as usual, google around for the files and the instruction, and you WILL find it. Good luck!

This post has been edited by samdogg: Dec 27 2005, 07:14 PM


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samdogg   Review of WM 5 upgrade for MPX200   Dec 19 2005, 02:40 AM
smeg36   Wow, thanks a lot for the insightful review. That...   Dec 19 2005, 03:08 AM
samdogg   Thanks Smeg. That's the point of forums. you...   Dec 19 2005, 03:28 AM
abatis   Nice job samdogg. You earn a pin.   Dec 19 2005, 03:23 AM
KingDaddy   Very cool: Drop a font into \Windows\Fo...   Dec 19 2005, 12:42 PM
neostar   I also went with good old darky's offer, so I ...   Dec 19 2005, 02:16 PM
KingDaddy   WM10 lets you fast-forward. I think that's a ...   Dec 19 2005, 04:12 PM
samdogg   Sweet! Even though its nice to be one of the ...   Dec 19 2005, 05:28 PM
samdogg   UPDATE #3: As far as slowness in the OS, you all ...   Dec 19 2005, 05:38 PM
samdogg   UPDATE #4 As expected, using an MMC card will sl...   Dec 20 2005, 08:13 AM
neostar   Yeah I tried a viking 512MB SD Card first and it d...   Dec 20 2005, 09:35 AM
neostar   *UPDATE* I read during the review of the Orange c...   Dec 20 2005, 11:52 AM
zlonx   VERY NICE JOB YOU GUYS! cant wait to try it o...   Dec 20 2005, 01:22 PM
hyper   Dear samdogg! As far as I have understood you...   Dec 20 2005, 08:10 PM
darkoverlord   Nice Job Guys, I am happy to see that you are happ...   Dec 21 2005, 03:17 AM
AndrewSh   The Windows works pretty nice. The only issue for...   Dec 24 2005, 07:20 AM
sofene   Do you have phm regedit installed? You should be a...   Dec 25 2005, 05:08 PM
SyubSnunb   I've also got WM5 running on my mpx200. I...   Dec 22 2005, 12:20 AM
donZe   And is it possible to go back to 2003 once you hav...   Dec 22 2005, 11:46 AM
kerrynia   Hallo, no problem to flash back. If you have ba...   Dec 26 2005, 08:47 PM
smart-turk   well in Turkey we made this upgrade succesfully an...   Dec 25 2005, 05:37 PM
samdogg   Hats off to Smart-turk. He made it possible fo...   Dec 27 2005, 06:13 AM
sbelean   Can you tell me how to application unlock MPX200 W...   Dec 27 2005, 07:08 AM
gshegosh   It doesn't work for me, too :( I've goog...   Dec 29 2005, 07:28 AM
Firefly   Same here, It did not allow me to change the val...   Dec 29 2005, 09:20 AM
AndrewSh   In addition to my previous post about the registr...   Dec 29 2005, 03:32 PM
purnama   AndrewSh, Based on the instruction in the Regi...   Jan 3 2006, 04:37 AM
muchomorek   Just copy default.hv in to \windows folder   Jan 3 2006, 05:02 AM
purnama   Yup, you're right it works... Thanks alot.....   Jan 3 2006, 08:03 AM
traysup   Yes hats off to Smart-Turk!!   Dec 27 2005, 07:19 AM
yufeng66   I got WM5 on my MPX200 too. I think overall it is ...   Dec 27 2005, 05:34 PM
demosthenes   Is there a way to save the movie, and not to op...   Dec 27 2005, 06:05 PM
smart-turk   did you mean Tutorial movie You can't down...   Dec 27 2005, 08:39 PM
demosthenes   Thanks!!! ; )   Dec 28 2005, 01:12 AM
Firefly   Successfully installed WM5 on my MPx200!!...   Dec 28 2005, 05:03 AM
Damen   yea u can install allmost every app...(so far only...   Dec 28 2005, 06:53 PM
Firefly   How about Jeyo Mobile Companion. Mine doesn...   Dec 29 2005, 09:19 AM
trxDraxon   I have mine flashed and running fine so far except...   Dec 28 2005, 08:19 PM
McPhisto   Hi!! Im using WM5 in my mpx200, and i have...   Dec 29 2005, 03:26 PM
McPhisto   SD card problem solved!!! did exact...   Dec 29 2005, 07:05 PM
oclp   I installed the File Manager and Task Manager fr...   Jan 8 2006, 05:44 AM
AndrewSh   To Firefly Jeyo Mobile Companion works. When you s...   Dec 29 2005, 07:48 PM
homerjs   I tried to upgrade. But after img3 my phone died. ...   Dec 29 2005, 09:11 PM
pedro   Hi Guys! I have a Kingston 128MB card, but I ...   Dec 29 2005, 10:55 PM
traysup   How did your phone die homerjs? Im sorry, i just n...   Dec 30 2005, 12:18 AM
homerjs   After loading image 2 and 3 it did not boot up.....   Dec 30 2005, 05:19 AM
homerjs   After loading image 2 and 3 it did not boot up... ...   Dec 30 2005, 05:32 AM
infrax   Do You guys know how to disable auto-MSN connectio...   Dec 30 2005, 01:04 AM
muchomorek   after flashing with img3 did you removed the batte...   Dec 30 2005, 05:43 AM
homerjs   I did everything what smart turk movies told me....   Dec 30 2005, 05:46 AM
muchomorek   PM me your email so that i can send you the zip...   Dec 30 2005, 05:50 AM
homerjs   thx.... But I still cant power on the damn thing....   Dec 30 2005, 06:49 AM
AndrewSh   homerjs and others Don't try to use Kingston c...   Dec 30 2005, 07:53 AM
homerjs   But the problem is that I canīt power up the pho...   Dec 30 2005, 08:00 AM
AndrewSh   Exactly! :) You actually can use any kinda n...   Dec 30 2005, 08:09 AM
homerjs   Well problem is that when i connect my phone to ...   Dec 30 2005, 08:35 AM
pedro   Your mobil is not died! I have the sam e probl...   Dec 30 2005, 08:09 AM
homerjs   Hi guys! Good news. It was true, my phone wa...   Dec 30 2005, 01:36 PM
aram   How did you exactly made the system recognize the...   Jan 3 2006, 08:33 PM
trxDraxon   Well here we go...I have had WM5 running for the l...   Dec 30 2005, 04:42 PM
1983   Edit-Please read the Board Guidelines. Posting li...   Dec 31 2005, 04:27 AM
homerjs   Maybe its usefull which brand for SD can run wm5...   Dec 31 2005, 08:22 AM
shadowrtype   I picked up an EDGE 256 SD in hopes of doing thi...   Dec 31 2005, 08:05 PM
elviaitalia   Good morning and a happy new year to everybody. I...   Jan 1 2006, 09:47 AM
Damen   "An example: Where are the settings to switch...   Jan 1 2006, 01:06 PM
elviaitalia   Yup! I found that out this morning by accide...   Jan 1 2006, 03:10 PM
purnama   Hi folks, I hv successfully flashed my mpx200 wit...   Jan 2 2006, 03:43 AM
muchomorek   read AndrewSh post http://www.mobilegadgetnew...   Jan 2 2006, 05:45 AM
Geqxon   -totaly the wrong topic-   Jan 2 2006, 05:02 PM
AndrewSh   Some registry tweaks Remember - do it on your own...   Jan 3 2006, 09:38 AM
samdogg   ANdrewSH, thanks for the tweaks, especially the...   Jan 4 2006, 01:47 AM
AndrewSh   Well, the problem with ext. screen still exists -...   Jan 4 2006, 06:45 AM
Geqxon   Sorry for this mis-interpetation. I was posting...   Jan 5 2006, 11:57 AM
Damen   great work andrew, how do you change the backgroun...   Jan 3 2006, 03:32 PM
purnama   Does anybody know what's the "Enable KITL...   Jan 4 2006, 08:59 AM
AndrewSh   It means "Enable KITL".... :) Maybe yo...   Jan 4 2006, 09:07 AM
purnama   :wacko: Well... at least now I know that I dont...   Jan 4 2006, 10:24 AM
gatito   how can i active sync to work in my computer with ...   Jan 5 2006, 03:42 AM
muchomorek   download and install activsync 4.1 http://www.mi...   Jan 5 2006, 03:45 AM
AndrewSh   You should carefully read this: http://www.micros...   Jan 5 2006, 08:09 AM
boggyman   does anyone know is it possible to change the orde...   Jan 6 2006, 03:37 PM
infrax   I have a hardware problem. Keylights doesnot work ...   Jan 8 2006, 01:30 PM
AndrewSh   Actually you have to look HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE ...   Jan 8 2006, 01:40 PM
smeg36   I had a MPx200 with this problem, and tried editin...   Jan 8 2006, 02:01 PM
infrax   I agree with you. but is there any solution you ma...   Jan 8 2006, 02:07 PM
smeg36   Replacing the phone was the easiest (and only) fix...   Jan 8 2006, 02:37 PM
pkcheng   Thanks to all of your for sharing of your valuable...   Jan 9 2006, 11:17 AM
NoNafs   All these posts about the MPx200 are making me mis...   Jan 9 2006, 04:49 PM
smeg36   No, you didn't make a mistake. The SMT5600 is...   Jan 9 2006, 05:46 PM
elviaitalia   Hi Smeg et all, I don't know anything abou...   Jan 10 2006, 10:15 AM
NoNafs   But the bulletproof hinge, the exterior, i kno i...   Jan 10 2006, 09:38 PM
konker   Hi...anyone can comment on the upgrade wizard? I...   Jan 12 2006, 08:05 AM
1983   you may use 1.20 without any problem :D   Jan 12 2006, 02:42 PM
DrBrains   hi, For some reason there is nothing on my SD-car...   Jan 13 2006, 07:32 AM
tiger2380   where do you put those files.   Jan 9 2006, 11:35 PM
oclp   You run the setup program from the Motorola MPx2...   Jan 10 2006, 08:19 AM
dmk_911   can someone send me a link to the 2005 rom and upg...   Jan 13 2006, 02:53 PM
Z3RatuL   I do have one issue. When I get a call, the caller...   Jan 14 2006, 12:28 AM
flowmatik   i've been having this issue too. it's inco...   Jan 21 2006, 05:51 PM
DrBrains   Hi, After a few days of using WM5 on my MPX200, i...   Jan 20 2006, 07:45 PM
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